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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:01 pm

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Yes, it's true that Demons Souls only sold 1 million on the PS3, but Atlus only expected it to do 400,000 units. 60% over their estimates isn;t a small feat,

Math fail nerd

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:05 pm

lol! I never look at the names in the comments section, I just read the fanboi rhetoric. There's some gooduns!!


Now I need to go buy 5 or 6 FPS games for my 360 since I'm so far behind the curve!

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:10 pm

Yup!

Like i said, it has nothing to do with quality. It's just pure numbers. 1 million is still a success for most dev's, but in terms of the potential sales on the 360 it's peanuts. So, why make a game that's only going to sell a million, or a FPs/3rdPs that may be mediocre and sell 3?

On the PS3 the terms are different because buyers don't buy as much, and they also seem to spread out their purchases into different genre's. Thats kind of always been a factor of the Playstation brand, which is why I like it more. We have a better chance of getting a DS, or ICO, or Heavenly Sword; and then a sequel or spinnoff.

How that's a fanboy opinion, you got me.

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:10 pm

Wait... I guess I should buy them for my PS3 since I am behind the curve there too.

Top 10 best selling PS3 titles of all time and their sales numbers (in millions).

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PS3) 9.04
Call of Duty: Black Ops (PS3) 8.43
Grand Theft Auto IV (PS3) 7.15
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PS3) 5.53
Gran Turismo 5 (PS3) 5.43
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3) 5.11
Final Fantasy XIII (PS3)4.48
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3) 4.39
Call of Duty: World at War (PS3) 4.38
Assassin's Creed II (PS3) 4.30

What a Face

I'm surprised KZ2 isn't in the top 10...

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:11 pm

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:12 pm

#23 Killzone 2 (PS3) 2.56

KZ2 only sold 2.56 million copies total? Whoa... such an awesome game and so much better than all the recent CoD's too. I would have thought it sold around 10 million or so... Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:14 pm

kkrambo wrote:
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Yes, it's true that Demons Souls only sold 1 million on the PS3, but Atlus only expected it to do 400,000 units. 60% over their estimates isn;t a small feat,

Math fail nerd

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:15 pm

TyrantII wrote:
kkrambo wrote:
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Yes, it's true that Demons Souls only sold 1 million on the PS3, but Atlus only expected it to do 400,000 units. 60% over their estimates isn;t a small feat,

Math fail nerd

damn you

PicardPalm

Can I get a 250 up in here?

250% would still be a fail... Robe & Wizard Hat

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:18 pm

Also true, but look at the parity in the numbers after #1 and #2. By number it seems purchases are more spread out in the PS3 numbers. With the 360, there seems to be a huge drop off from the top 10 popular titles, to the least popular.

It's _ vs \

And again, if DS sells 1 million on the PS3, thats a success most likely. Even if it sells 1 million on the 360, is it as successful there? I'd say there's a different standard, even though the same number of people enjoyed it. It was less popular on the 360.

But anyways, enough of this crap. I'm hoping to see 5 million sales on both the 360/PS3 so FromSoftware is rolling in cash to make more great games.

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:21 pm

whatever. 1mil is 150% more than 400k.

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edit... i'm bored. cabin fever is killing me. just ignore me.

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:24 pm

I hope it sells well, if they come up with a different way of treating the penalty from death. I don't mind that DS was difficult... I'm fine with difficult games. Making you be careful? Fine... learning from your mistakes? No problem.

Give me an XP penalty, or money penalty, or something like that... but don't make it so that if I die stupidly, the last three hours I have spent playing get wiped out. I don't have enough gaming time as it is, so the time that I do put into it I would like to feel like I have made some headway... otherwise I could have just been watching Matlock reruns and had my character be just as powerful or advanced. OldMan

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:26 pm

It was an XP penalty...

You lost your souls (XP), and you had 1 chance to get them back. All weapons and items stayed. All open doors and shortcuts stayed open.

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:27 pm

Mark Sporto wrote:
whatever. 1mil is 150% more than 400k.

mr. topic changer.

edit... i'm bored. cabin fever is killing me. just ignore me.

Yeah, not doing math today. rabbit

worldwide sales are probably up around 1.4 now anyways. Would that make me correct?

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:29 pm

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Mark Sporto wrote:
whatever. 1mil is 150% more than 400k.

mr. topic changer.

edit... i'm bored. cabin fever is killing me. just ignore me.

Yeah, not doing math today. rabbit

worldwide sales are probably up around 1.4 now anyways. Would that make me correct?

i don't even know if i'm correct.

how's that? Cheers!

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:32 pm

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It was an XP penalty...

You lost your souls (XP), and you had 1 chance to get them back. All weapons and items stayed. All open doors and shortcuts stayed open.

Very Happy

like alpha said though, the game seem predicated on penalties, and thin on rewards. what did i get for leveling up? even tougher enemies... what did i get for advancing and beating the levels? satisfaction. pfft... i'd rather get a sweet weapon.

i also didn't like that it would punish you for building a balanced character.

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:32 pm

TyrantII wrote:
It was an XP penalty...

You lost your souls (XP), and you had 1 chance to get them back. All weapons and items stayed. All open doors and shortcuts stayed open.

Very Happy


Suspect

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:46 pm

I'd argue that most games punish you for building a balanced character. You're almost always encouraged to build towards a particular strength in games. Swords, sneak, magic....almost every game.

How about this, Mr. Cabin Fever....what game do you think encouraged you to build up all your stats equally?

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:13 pm

I just naturally try to specialize in RPG-ish games, anyway. Like Oblivion, where I poured literally everything into sneak, pickpocket, and lockpick. That's the point of an RPG, to take what you want to do and make your character really good at them. "I wanna be awesome at everything" is boring, IMO.

Also, why does it matter if Atlus isn't publishing? It's still the same dev making the game, and it's probably better for the game to get published by a company that will make a real advertising push for it (which it'll really need to get traction on the 360 because it's all shooters lolololol).
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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:21 pm

Exactly. And with DS, the fun was in finding Blue Phantoms that complimented your build so that the group had everything needed.

The only thing that sucked was the Valley Of Defilement. An HP eating swamp, strong enemies and poor light levels ticked me off.

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:48 pm

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Also, why does it matter if Atlus isn't publishing? It's still the same dev making the game, and it's probably better for the game to get published by a company that will make a real advertising push for it (which it'll really need to get traction on the 360 because it's all shooters lolololol).

Nothing in particular is upsetting about Atlus not publishing, though I'd grown fond of the Atlus / From Software partnership through DS and 3DDGH.

Publishers can affect different things in a game...rushing it to production is one that comes to mind. Neither DS or 3DDGH were patched for performance issues. Perhaps some of you might say they should've, but I was pleased with the product they first put on the shelves. The same can't be said for a lot of games these days.

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:38 am

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#23 Killzone 2 (PS3) 2.56

KZ2 only sold 2.56 million copies total? Whoa... such an awesome game and so much better than all the recent CoD's too. I would have thought it sold around 10 million or so... Shocked

That is what Drew Rosenhouse & branding can do for you lol!

I hope GG didn't sell out to this model too much.
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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:59 am

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How about this, Mr. Cabin Fever....what game do you think encouraged you to build up all your stats equally?

fallout 3.

Wink

and i ended up becoming pretty invincible in oblivion as well. king


don't forget, mr. run ahead and kill stuff without waiting on your squad, i have rpg OCD and am very meticulous about looking at every little thing i find. i prefer to prepare my character to go into a fight knowing full well that the enemies don't have a chance. at the same time i like to do that with one of the weaker skills, a'la my archer build. so the challenge is still there, but i pour more of my time into building my dude's skills.


whatever, i hate you guys so much. [/cartman]

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:57 pm


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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:17 pm

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PostSubject: Re: *OFFICIAL* DARK SOULS THREAD FOR W1NNARS!   Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:15 pm

Mark Sporto wrote:
frankthetoad wrote:

How about this, Mr. Cabin Fever....what game do you think encouraged you to build up all your stats equally?

fallout 3.

Wink

and i ended up becoming pretty invincible in oblivion as well. king


don't forget, mr. run ahead and kill stuff without waiting on your squad, i have rpg OCD and am very meticulous about looking at every little thing i find. i prefer to prepare my character to go into a fight knowing full well that the enemies don't have a chance. at the same time i like to do that with one of the weaker skills, a'la my archer build. so the challenge is still there, but i pour more of my time into building my dude's skills.


whatever, i hate you guys so much. [/cartman]

I also was going to mention Fallout 3, but figured Tez would refute it because he probably snuck through the whole gaming putting grenades in people's underwear.

Oh, and get out of our thread TROLL!! Very Happy
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