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PostSubject: Best weapons for upgrading   Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:36 am

So I'm rolling with the Drake sword but thinking it's time to buy/find a weapon that I can upgrade.

Point me in the correct direction brethren.

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:37 am

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:40 am

I still have no idea Kek. After reading a whole bunch about it, I think I may need to upgrade several different weapons for different situations. So I'm upgrading my halberd to a +15 weapon, my estoc to a divine weapon and something else to a lightning weapon, etc.

Here's some Q&A from the character build/advice thread:

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:05 am

Nunchucks.
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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:28 am

One thing to think of too; how do you want to fight? If you are trying for a dedicated theif type build like I am, piercing weapons and dex based ones are the way to go. I take just about ever non-boss monster out with parries and backstabs. You dont have to be a thief to do this, but bang for the buck, dex/piercing weapons and high crit ratings are kings of the castle in those cases. As good of a ratio between base damage (physical, magic, whatever) and critical hit damage are important. Most pierce weapons have higher crit ratings and lower base damage than slash/crushing counterparts.

A small example for me. I was trying to take out the Ford on the bridge with my trusty longsword by doing the dive stab method. It took me too many attempts to the point of dying. I switched it up and equipted my starting dagger. The dagger has a higher crit rating (like 154 instead of 100) and higher Dex modifier. 3-4 drops and the Ford was sent to the body shop.

For a strength based build, crit and damage are important too, but I would wager having a higher base damage than crit is key there to get more damage out of swings alone than with backstabs/parries.

Drake sword seems great now with its 200 damage and the ease to get it, but keep in mind the 200 is straight up physical damage, and I am sure things later on mitigate physical much better. Drake will probably be a vanilla + weapon for me, but I will look into using some other things to get the divine, lightning etc.

The one thing I am not clear on is if you upgrade a special weapon to one of the "Unique" weapons, does that unique weapon carry over some of the stats of the base weapon, or are all "Joe's sword +1" the same stats no matter what you used to make them? Haven't found anything on this as of yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:44 am

Yeah, do not upgrade the drake sword. There's a better dragon sword later that take dragon scales.

Better off finding other weapons.

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:23 pm

Played with a guy last night with a Lightning Bastard Sword +5. It was a freaking beast. I haven't even found a Bastard Sword. When I do, that's the upgrade path I'll be taking.

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:29 pm

Thought the first smith (right after Parish) sold em?
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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:31 pm

Well, guess I'm going there once I finally leave Anor Londo....

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:01 pm

I made a lightning gargoyle tail axe and its a beast, fast swinger too
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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:44 pm

What strength do you have? My scimitar is almost +10 magic. I'm saving it until then.

Right now I mainly roll with the fully upgraded lightning spear or my +4 Gravelord Sword. It's not the fastest swinger.

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:37 am

What is the best weapon to upgrade for the earlier levels? I'm in the low 40's right now and am mainly using my Halberd +8. I really like it. I'm about to hit Blighttown or whatever the place is below the Depths.

I was planning on creating a Divine weapon since they are supposed to be awesome versus the skellies in the Catacombs and the ghosts in New Londo ruins.

I really like the bastard sword and the military pick, but I couldn't get either one to do a backstab. I was trying on the easy guys in Undead Burg to test it out and could never get one. I don't know if I like that.

I also upgraded my STR to check out the Zweihander since Toad said it is worth upgrading. However when I swing it seems like it takes 5 seconds to complete the anmiation. Shocked Is it really worth upgrading to a fire/divine/whatever?

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:40 am

I've seen lots of people rock super long animation weapons. Last night there was a guy I summoned wielding the Dragon Tooth. It looks ridiculous, but he was one hitting everything. It all comes down to your preferred style of play. I like fast striking weapons...which is why I love my Lightning Spear. The Gravelord Sword is a little slower, but I use that against large foes.

I'd just upgrade your favorite weapon. I made a Magic Scimitar +10 last night, but probably won't use it until I start dumping levels into Intelligence in NG+.

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:54 am

Why? Does the scimitar get a bonus from INT or something? scratch

Is the winged spear worth upgrading more than the halberd? I just got it last night.

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:37 am

Also is the Great Sword of Artorias worth putting 10 more points into INT for? I would need to go all INT for the next 10 levels in order to do that. Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:56 am

Valyrian steel sword
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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:08 pm

AlphaShepherd wrote:
Why? Does the scimitar get a bonus from INT or something? scratch

Is the winged spear worth upgrading more than the halberd? I just got it last night.

I think INT affects elemental damages in Dark Souls...thought I read that somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:09 pm

I thought that most elemental weapons- lightning and fire (are there others)- do not scale with any stat. I know that the lightning spear doesn't scale.

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:35 pm

AlphaShepherd wrote:
Also is the Great Sword of Artorias worth putting 10 more points into INT for? I would need to go all INT for the next 10 levels in order to do that. Shocked

no not really, I did that, and well I don't even use the sword very much at all Sad

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and fire enchant that thing... what a BEAST mine is at +8 and does like 500 damage a hit, and it swings pretty fast also on each hit it restores a little bit of HP (7HP per hit) which is awesome, only downside is that its not great against shielded enemies if you hit the shield when up you stagger quite a bit (as you do with all weapons)
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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:42 pm

Found that last night. I'll give it a try!

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:15 am

Sweet! I just entered Blight Town so I will look for it. There is also some sweet sword I saw in EpicNameGuy's video I watched since I went in the entrance last night. It's some kind of katana or something that makes you sprint forward when attacking with the R2 attack.

I upgraded both the winged spear and Zweihander last night to +5. Not impressed. Went back to the Halberd. study

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:05 am

Halberd is actually, the more I read up on it, a choice weapon for the shield and spear rogue build. I may start toying around with it.

....once I can start playing again after I get my own copy of the game. No
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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:08 am

I love the Halberd. With shield up the normal attack is a thrust, R2 attack is a 360 degree sweep. Same goes for the 2-hand stance just more damage. You can also hit them from a long way away.

There was a black phantom that invaded my world in the Depths. He was using a mace and shield. Never even got close to me. Skewered him in no time flat. Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:30 am

powerbroker wrote:
AlphaShepherd wrote:
Also is the Great Sword of Artorias worth putting 10 more points into INT for? I would need to go all INT for the next 10 levels in order to do that. Shocked

no not really, I did that, and well I don't even use the sword very much at all Sad

By the way thanks Broker... I would have had to upgrade my Faith as well, so even more souls. I won't bother now!

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PostSubject: Re: Best weapons for upgrading   Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:20 pm

AlphaShepherd wrote:
Sweet! I just entered Blight Town so I will look for it. There is also some sweet sword I saw in EpicNameGuy's video I watched since I went in the entrance last night. It's some kind of katana or something that makes you sprint forward when attacking with the R2 attack.

I upgraded both the winged spear and Zweihander last night to +5. Not impressed. Went back to the Halberd. study

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